Hello everyone,

Noob post here! I am considering diving in the murky waters of Lion Server… I was wondering if anyone in the Indigo community had experience with Indigo 5 and a Lion server install?

I have been informed that server versions of the OS are not officially supported. But, wondered if anyone has tried, and might be able to heed warnings of what may crawl out of the rocks!

Thanks!

I'm running indigo 5 on a Snow Leopard server, and it works fine, but I don't think I'd do it again. It just doesn't seem to have any advantage over regular OSX.

I've been a Linux / BSD guy in a previous job and I found OSX Server to be different enough to be annoying, yes it has all sorts of servers installed, but if you try to do anything complicated you quickly exceed the the gui tool capabilities and switching to the cli means that the gui tools are now all confused. And installing any other open source tools means installing all the other supporting libraries as well (perl, python, mysql, etc) because although Apple provided them already, you can't ever trust them to be there, in the same state after an upgrade.

I'd just stick with the regular OS and install the rest using mac ports or homebrew.

Tad

Hey Tad,

Thanks for the reply! Very helpful.

I thought it might be fun to mess with some of the installed servers, but sounds like it might be enough of a hassle to keep me from doing it.

Thanks again!

Agreed. I am moving from an old MacMini running Leopard Server to a new MacMini running just plain regular Lion OSX.
I am a UNIX guy so working the CLI and leveraging the macports does everything I need. Only if I could get Asterisk 1.8 to compile and run in this damn Lion thing

tadg wrote:I'm running indigo 5 on a Snow Leopard server, and it works fine, but I don't think I'd do it again. It just doesn't seem to have any advantage over regular OSX.

I've been a Linux / BSD guy in a previous job and I found OSX Server to be different enough to be annoying, yes it has all sorts of servers installed, but if you try to do anything complicated you quickly exceed the the gui tool capabilities and switching to the cli means that the gui tools are now all confused. And installing any other open source tools means installing all the other supporting libraries as well (perl, python, mysql, etc) because although Apple provided them already, you can't ever trust them to be there, in the same state after an upgrade.

I'd just stick with the regular OS and install the rest using mac ports or homebrew.

Tad

jdawgplu wrote:Noob post here! I am considering diving in the murky waters of Lion Server… I was wondering if anyone in the Indigo community had experience with Indigo 5 and a Lion server install?

I have been informed that server versions of the OS are not officially supported. But, wondered if anyone has tried, and might be able to heed warnings of what may crawl out of the rocks!
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In the majority of the cases, Mac OS X server is the same exact OS as the "Client" version. The major differences lies in the licensing of the OS. Server supports unlimited access, where the client only supports roughly 10 clients connecting the client version of the OS.

Now tadg is correct, the other major difference is that the Server edition includes GUI based tools to configure the services.....
And the best example of this, is in Lion & Mountain lion, where literally the only difference in the OS is the $40 purchase of the Server console....

But none of the services should cause any issues with Indigo, except for maybe the Web or Wiki service, and even then it would simply be a matter of changing either Indigo's Web server port, or the service that is conflicting's web port...

Matt & Jay, do you consider MOSX Server to be unsupported or best effort supported?

bschollnick2 wrote:Matt & Jay, do you consider MOSX Server to be unsupported or best effort supported?

Technically, it is unsupported since we don't have the bandwidth to QA under another version of the OS. That said, if someone has an issue and will work with us to try to track down the issue we would make an effort to resolve it -- within reason.

For the most part, I believe it works well and I'm sure we have a decent amount of Indigo users that have run on it. But there can be issues. For example, 64-bit Snow Leopard Server doesn't load all kernel extensions correctly, which causes Indigo's support of the PowerLinc 2414U, 1132CU, and CM15 to not work. We found a workaround to that particular issue. I'm not sure if Apple ever fixed the underlying problem or not.

I have Indigo 5.0.4 running on Lion, with Lion Server installed. I have not noticed any problems.