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Post OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
Has anyone looked at how well indigo plays in the new mountain lion environment?


Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:42 pm
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
We never start official testing this early in the beta process for OS releases - too much changes closer to release. We also don't support Indigo running on beta OS releases...

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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
Understand GM is out. Do you think you will be ready when mountain lion released? Apparently the next release of weather snoop will be mountain lion only?


Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:39 am
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
The GM is available to developers for testing but hasn't been released to the public yet. We've been quite buried in other stuff so we haven't had a chance to test yet - I don't believe there are any changes that should effect us but we'll get to it here in the next couple of weeks.

Yes apparently the new version of WeatherSnoop will be Mountain Lion only - bold move. We're more cautious about changing our minimum requirements since we know a lot of people run Indigo on older hardware.

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Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:19 am
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
Wow... looks like a lot of people get left out in the cold with Mountain Lion. My mini is the oldest one supported...I'm sure next year some "technical requirement" will force me to upgrade. Lock in...

Your Mac must be one of the following models:

iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
Xserve (Early 2009)


Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:59 am
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
I currently have Indigo 5 running on a Mountain Lion (server) with no identified issues so far, using plugins for the rfxtrx433, lightwaverf and cynical security spy. (That said the actual upgrade process to ML server from Lion server was an absolute disaster.. had to flatten the machine and start afresh)

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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:40 pm
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
Dewster35 wrote:Wow... looks like a lot of people get left out in the cold with Mountain Lion. My mini is the oldest one supported...I'm sure next year some "technical requirement" will force me to upgrade. Lock in...

Yep -- I'm one in the cold.

My main development Mac, a perfectly capable and fast dual quad-core Intel Mac Pro, isn't supported. I'm not real happy about having to buy a new development Mac for no particularly good reason (I don't consider Mountain Lion requiring 64-bit EFI a good reason). Oh well...

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Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:31 pm
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
Okie dokie.....10.8 is out...anyone using indigo with it yet?
I'm running 10.8 on my mac but I don't have anything to control just yet.
So I have not downloaded indigo and installed it yet.
I have an x10 light switch in every room of my house (dimmable) but no
network interface to the powerline.

My entire house has Leviton x10 throughout but I have no automation software.
It's looking like it's going to be indigo for me.
It's my understanding that these Leviton switches do an extended x10 commandset
thing, but I am unsure about just how proprietary they are.

Anyone have any experience with Leviton scene controllers and switches
and has opinions about how proprietary they are and do they work with
just about any controller or do they require Leviton's Toscana controller?
I actually have Leviton's Toscana controller, though I have not mounted
in a wall or implemented it yet.

Any boots in the right direction would be appreciated!


Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:18 pm
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
I've been the guinea pig one too many times. I'm waiting for 10.8.1 before I update my server :D


Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:23 pm
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
As of yet...I have nothing. I put in all Leviton scene controllers and switches
in every room of the house and did not get anything to centrally control them all with.
I was too disappointed with the current state of the art 5 years ago as regards
interoperability and adherence to standards, and lack of standards.
I'm sort of wondering how much the subject has progressed in the last
5 years. And I'm re-doing (beginning to) my research on software and
centralized controllers and determining if I want to take the plunge yet.

How is the home automation world as far as IP addresses go?
In my perfect world every light switch would have an ip addy
and would reside on my hard wired ethernet. But I know
that isn't the case.


Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:30 pm
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
Okay...well, here goes.....let me reboot from my iPod which has 10.8 on it
and I'll find out if Indigo at least installs and appears to run.


Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:55 pm
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
Appears to install and run just fine under 10.8.
localhost:8176 appears to work in a browser.

So I need a powerlinc to talk to my wall switches I guess.
Is it true that Indigio does not speak TCP/IP ?
It really has to be USB or serial?
Okay...it just spoke something so audio works in 10.8.....

So it looks like $39.99 and I could chat with all my wall switches.
http://www.smarthome.com/2414U/PowerLin ... ice/p.aspx

Or $79.99 for the dual band offering.
http://www.smarthome.com/2413U/PowerLin ... and/p.aspx
What does dual band mean with respect to USB and home automation?

BTW...I have no insteon controllers or devices or any other insteon products.
I have about 17 leviton dimming switches and 4 scene controllers.
Which way do I jump? Would I really want a different PLC or one of these insteon units?

Thx gurus.


Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:27 pm
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Exten:
I would definitely point you toward the PLM 2413U. I know that $39.99 price for the PLC 2414U is tempting, but there's a reason it's a hot deal. Look at the bold red type:

PowerLinc Controller no longer works with INSTEON devices shipping after March 2012.

That means it is useless if you ever want to change some of those X10 switches to the INSTEON variety. We quit selling the PLC 2414U on our site several months ago.

The PLM 2413U is the latest and greatest INSTEON controller. It has the INSTEON RF antenna built in which makes your system even more robust and it handles the more advanced functions that the latest INSTEON devices have. "Dual Band" means that when Indigo sends it a INSTEON command, that the command is put on BOTH the power line AND thru the air looking for any other INSTEON RF device that may be in your system. Receiving Dual-Band devices then put the command on the power line (even though it might not be for them) and sends it on the way. Therefore, Dual Band technology increase the reliability of an INSTEON based system.

And . . . by the way, MacHomeStore pretests every PLM 2413U controller in an Indigo environment against X10 and INSTEON devices before we ship it out to a customer.

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Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:08 pm
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Post Re: OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
Norm, thank you. I didn't know about homemacstore.com. Thx for pointing that out
and it looks like I'll probibly be getting my thermostats from there.

I pulled the trigger on the 2413U and the houselinc software because I need something
to get started with now.

I decided on the bundle that has windows wares because I want a baseline and something
to compare results against and when one doesn't know what good looks like and no good
point of reference it's tougher if there's a problem. My strategy is to have a win laptop
running the official windows wares as well as my mac doing Indigo and if there is a
solid problem then that problem should exist on both platforms if the problem is
actually a leviton proprietary type of problem.

I've seen reference to leviton products not being compatible. I need to know how
bad off I am before I venture into the subject of replacing all my wall switches.
That thought makes me very unhappy. The Toscana controller is a very nice
piece of hardware hate to lose it....


Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:11 pm
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