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It's dead, Jim
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Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:02 pm
by FlyingDiver
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:35 pm
by DaveL17
IMO, the key sentence in the entire article is:
In 2017, Smartlabs Inc. was acquired by Richmond Capital Partners, a private investment firm founded by Rob Lilleness, and Lilleness was installed as CEO.
It's not uncommon for private equity firms to buy companies and sell them for parts. In doing that there's often not a lot of consideration paid to the acquired company's customers. That's not necessarily what's happened here, but that's my guess.
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:57 pm
by jltnol
Capitalism at its best... I mean worst.
I've got a lot of Insteon stuff but started to transition to Z-wave, but still have a long way to go. I will utterly miss the KeypadLinc, as they were incredibly versatile and easy to setup and use. But, I have been following the news for awhile now, so this isn't such a total shock.
My hopes would be someone would buy the IP, start a new company, re-engineer new devices to be better, and still maintain some backward compatibility.... but.... I'm not waiting to exhale.
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:35 am
by peszko
jltnol wrote:My hopes would be someone would buy the IP, start a new company, re-engineer new devices to be better, and still maintain some backward compatibility.... but.... I'm not waiting to exhale.
I would think this is unlikely in the current environment. Apart from the quality of the devices, I think there are some fundamental weaknesses of the Insteon protocol especially for larger installations. Plus, I think the target audience for this kind of automation approach is not very large. A lot of people just want to buy a cheap box, couple devices, give it some passwords and see the lights flicker. Professional installers wouldn't touch Insteon with a 10' pole. So that leaves hobbyists like a lot of Indigo users who love to tinker with their systems and can put in the time and effort to make it work.
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:44 am
by johnpolasek
I have been moving stuff from Insteon to Z-Wave and KASA for some time as switches and sensors die... the only thing that I CAN'T find a replacement for are the 8 button controllers that fit in a single switch box. Does anyone build some kind of equivalent in any other protocol that I have missed?
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:41 pm
by peszko
johnpolasek wrote:the only thing that I CAN'T find a replacement for are the 8 button controllers that fit in a single switch box. Does anyone build some kind of equivalent in any other protocol that I have missed?
Same here. I'm still looking for a replacement for this. Any suggestions welcome.
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:51 pm
by jay (support)
There is the
Zooz ZEN32 - it's 5 buttons, not 8, but it seems to have some nice features. I don't have it in the wall yet, but it works nicely in my test environment.
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:14 pm
by mundmc
Wow, thank God I just ordered 20 zwave switches; That could have been devastating.
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:26 pm
by wormhole
What z wave switches do people recommend?
Re: It's dead, Jim
Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:09 pm
by peszko
I use mostly HomeSeer WS200+, WD200+, and will be ordering HomeSeer WX300 when they are in stock.
I have 17 so far and like them a lot.
Re: It's dead, Jim
Posted:
Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:24 am
by wormhole
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:23 pm
by FlyingDiver
Re: It's dead, Jim
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Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:13 pm
by DaveL17
At least they finally said something. IMO, it changes nothing.
Re: It's dead, Jim
Posted:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:36 pm
by peszko
From the Article:
When more widely compatible technologies like Zigbee, Z-Wave, and the upcoming Matter are licensable, it's not clear what anyone would want to buy from Insteon. Certainly, Insteon's brand value must be at near zero after this reputation-destroying stunt.
I'm not surprised nobody wanted to buy it.
Re: It's dead, Jim
Posted:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:04 pm
by ryanbuckner
Looks like Homeseer is making a push to capture the wandering users:
Homeseer FAQ