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philc wrote:I had a log full of the same errors Artpics listed...had to disable the plugin.


Re-enable the plugin now, and you should see the plugin go out and download a newer copy of the FindmyIphone engine. I just updated it to 1.41 to reflect the changes that Apple pushed out last night.

The changed the name of a few fields, and added a few more fields as well.

The plugin should be working as of 9:30 am EST... on 5/15/2012.

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Wed May 16, 2012 7:29 am
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disable and re-enabled. Still getting the errors here...

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Wed May 16, 2012 12:48 pm
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yeah same here


Wed May 16, 2012 2:08 pm
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midd wrote:disable and re-enabled. Still getting the errors here...


What version are you running? v1.30?

If your running v1.30, I'll need to see your indigo.log to see why it's still failing...

v1.30 is available from http://www.schollnick.net/wordpress/hom ... indigo-v5/

- Benjamin

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Wed May 16, 2012 2:39 pm
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philc wrote:I had a log full of the same errors Artpics listed...had to disable the plugin.



I am in the same boat.
I updated the plugin, and then ran it. It gave me errors.
I then edited the login user name to NOT use the @me.com, and instead just the user name by itself.


Still no luck.


Wed May 16, 2012 3:13 pm
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dmeeker@mac.com wrote:
philc wrote:I had a log full of the same errors Artpics listed...had to disable the plugin.


I am in the same boat.
I updated the plugin, and then ran it. It gave me errors.
I then edited the login user name to NOT use the @me.com, and instead just the user name by itself.

Still no luck.


Please turn on Debug Logging for FMID, and then Please send me a copy of your indigo log, showing the startup sequence of the Find My iDevice. Email it to me at benjamin AT schollnick DOT net.

I'm sorry, but I need more information to solve this. According to my testing, it should be working, with the latest version of the software that I pushed out this morning...

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Wed May 16, 2012 4:09 pm
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Post Re: Find my iDevices! v1.31
Okay, I found a small issue... So I am releasing v1.31 of Find My iDevices...

The only changes are relating to a small bug fix, relating to the Apple changes....

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241415/Find%20M ... 0v1.31.zip

If you are still having an issue after updating to v1.31, please contact me in email with a copy of an debug log...

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Wed May 16, 2012 5:52 pm
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It appears to be working. Thank You for all of your work!

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Wed May 16, 2012 6:31 pm
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1.31 is working again thanks :D


Wed May 16, 2012 10:59 pm
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Works for me also. Thanks Ben. You are a genius.


Thu May 17, 2012 12:19 pm
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So I have been using this plugin for a couple weeks now but it rarely acts the way it should. I have a scheduled manual update check every few minutes to see if I am home, and once I come within .1 miles it should execute a few actions. It has worked a few times however the majority of the time I will come home and look at the iPhone device info which usually says it is a few miles away even though I have the Maps application open with it actively fixed to my location. When I run a manual update, multiple times, with Maps app opened to ensure an accurate location fix it will still show I am miles away but then if I reload the plugin from the plugin menu the iPhone device instantly updates to a .01 distance away and executes my actions. I checked the log and nothing looks odd, there are successful entries for the scheduled update which shows it was able to login and update. Anyone know what could be going on here? I love the concept of this plugin if it can work reliably in this way.

Thanks!


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Wed May 23, 2012 11:52 am
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CaliChris,
I love the concept as well, and I still use it as an alarm... I keep my phone fully silenced at night but have it find my iPhone with an alarm sound to wake me up if a door opens while the alarm is turned on. I had flakiness in the location as well... I ended up going to smartphone radar plugin instead and this has been much more reliable for telling the system when we are home and when we aren't... the primary use for it. I'm not big into messing with my router settings, but it really was pretty painless.

I think it would be great to be able to say WHERE we are, but I haven't had any luck getting the geo fences to work. I had also thought it would be an interesting way to see if you were headed home or headed away from home by comparing the distance away and doing some thing with that bit of information... but I couldn't' find a reliable way to get that to work in logic in indigo... no fault of the plugin, just a limitation with how I was triggering a manual update since pinging it every 10 minutes destroys the battery.


Wed May 23, 2012 1:01 pm
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Dewster35 wrote:CaliChris,
I love the concept as well, and I still use it as an alarm... I keep my phone fully silenced at night but have it find my iPhone with an alarm sound to wake me up if a door opens while the alarm is turned on. I had flakiness in the location as well... I ended up going to smartphone radar plugin instead and this has been much more reliable for telling the system when we are home and when we aren't... the primary use for it. I'm not big into messing with my router settings, but it really was pretty painless.

I think it would be great to be able to say WHERE we are, but I haven't had any luck getting the geo fences to work. I had also thought it would be an interesting way to see if you were headed home or headed away from home by comparing the distance away and doing some thing with that bit of information... but I couldn't' find a reliable way to get that to work in logic in indigo... no fault of the plugin, just a limitation with how I was triggering a manual update since pinging it every 10 minutes destroys the battery.


Just as an fyi, I am looking into a different geolocation scheme. The fencing issue is too unreliable. Instead in the next version, you will specify an Lat & Long, and a distance. That will create a "circle" / zone around that origin point, and I believe that will be more reliable.

The main issue is getting the time to code all of the changes.

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Wed May 23, 2012 3:24 pm
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CaliChris wrote:So I have been using this plugin for a couple weeks now but it rarely acts the way it should. I have a scheduled manual update check every few minutes to see if I am home, and once I come within .1 miles it should execute a few actions. It has worked a few times however the majority of the time I will come home and look at the iPhone device info which usually says it is a few miles away even though I have the Maps application open with it actively fixed to my location. When I run a manual update, multiple times, with Maps app opened to ensure an accurate location fix it will still show I am miles away but then if I reload the plugin from the plugin menu the iPhone device instantly updates to a .01 distance away and executes my actions. I checked the log and nothing looks odd, there are successful entries for the scheduled update which shows it was able to login and update. Anyone know what could be going on here? I love the concept of this plugin if it can work reliably in this way.


The issue here, is that there is no way with the Find my iPhone service (that Apple supplies) to guarantee when the GPS location has been updated.

You can request the location to be updated, 1, 2, 4, 100 times, and there is no way to guarantee that the data has been updated, since Apple seems to cache the data...

I don't recommend a poll time below 15 minutes, since Apple seems to be more likely to cache the data, depending on how often you poll for the location....

Find My iDevices relies on the data from Apple's service. If that data is not updated in a timely manner, then FMiD can't do anything to force the data to be updated.

(This is separate from the Fencing issue, there is a known issue with the fencing implementation, where a device may not be listed as being inside a fence when it is...)

You have to remember that the Find My iPhone service is only suppose to be used by Apple, they do not currently support the use of the service by any other applications. FMiD relies on reverse engineering the Find My iPhone service, and it does a reasonable job of this... But only Apple can tell you how and when the Find My iPhone data is cached....

- Benjamin

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bschollnick2 wrote:The issue here, is that there is no way with the Find my iPhone service (that Apple supplies) to guarantee when the GPS location has been updated.

You can request the location to be updated, 1, 2, 4, 100 times, and there is no way to guarantee that the data has been updated, since Apple seems to cache the data...

I don't recommend a poll time below 15 minutes, since Apple seems to be more likely to cache the data, depending on how often you poll for the location....

Find My iDevices relies on the data from Apple's service. If that data is not updated in a timely manner, then FMiD can't do anything to force the data to be updated.

(This is separate from the Fencing issue, there is a known issue with the fencing implementation, where a device may not be listed as being inside a fence when it is...)

You have to remember that the Find My iPhone service is only suppose to be used by Apple, they do not currently support the use of the service by any other applications. FMiD relies on reverse engineering the Find My iPhone service, and it does a reasonable job of this... But only Apple can tell you how and when the Find My iPhone data is cached....

- Benjamin


Naa, its not that Apple's server haven't been updated. I have done this many days in a row, when I get home I check the iPhone device in Indigo which says it is miles away. I start Maps to get a good GPS fix and also log into the iCloud site to verify it shows my phone at home, it always has. Then I try to do multiple manual updates through the plugin menu but the numbers (such as distance away) in the iPhone device do not change. I have let it sit there for a half hour and still no change, nothing changes, not distance away, accuracy, battery etc. Yet as soon as I reload the plugin new number are populated and my actions are executed. Without the reload it doesnt seem to be actually updating even though the log says it was able to log in and retrieve the status update. As soon as I reload the plugin it sees it very close, whether I do it as soon as I get home or wait a while.


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